To all of the tea baggers, Palinites, Glenn Beck worshippers, Radio Rwanda listeners, Second Amendment remedy types, and all the other assorted apologists for gun violence everywhere: just save your goddam breath.
We don’t need you explanations and your inane blandishments, and frankly, they’re juvenile and offensive.
Prayers for the families of the tragedy? Closing the barn door after the horse is gone. Considering your behavior and your rhetoric earlier would have been a lot more helpful.
Jared Lee Loughner? You own that sucker: lock, stock and barrel.
If you follow the link, you’ll see that evidence is emerging that Loughner planned nothing less than a political assassination. John Wilkes Booth and Gavrilo Princip were undoubtedly crazy, too. But they got their ideas somewhere. Just like Jared Lee Loughner.
You cannot incite people, even the mental defectives, and then walk away guilt free.
We had no idea. Imagine that?
You people make me sick.
Gosh, imagine being a family member? How awful!
But Spencer Giffords, the father of the assassin’s target, doesn’t have much trouble fixing the blame.
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Expressions of regret are sucked dry of any menaing when they are followed by indignation over suggestions of responsibility.
Maye especially the mental defectives.
So now that all the disinformation about Loughner being a right wing Tea Party activist has been fact checked and disproved, how will Spot continue to stand by his assertion that the right wing 'owns' him?
Tea Party? Nope, didn't even vote for the tea party candidate running against Gifford.
Republican? Nope, despite local lefty blogs attempt to paint him as one using a Photoshop effort.
Palin fan? No evidence of that anywhere, and his grudge against Gifford pre-dates Palin on the national stage.
Deranged from listening to Glen Beck? Not likely, since the only time Beck ever mentioned Gifford was to praise her for standing up to the president on immigration.
Spot has no evidence of any connection between the shooter and any right wing or even right leaning group.
An apology is in order, not to me, but to the memory of a 9 year old girl whose tragic death Spot is seeking to exploit for political purposes.
Dave! Welcome back. I see your convalescence over the drubbing you took in November is drawing to a close. Kidding. Sort of.
You see, the thing is, I didn't kill that little girl. Some deranged white guy with a shaved head, attempting a political assassination did, in a part of the country that's seen a lot of white terrorism. A part of the country that has been foaming with eliminationist rhetoric. Two of the primary targets were a Congresswoman and a federal judge, both of whom received had received death threats over immigration and health care reform; the Congresswoman's office had been vandalized.
To claim this was just out of the blue, we've got no fingerprints on it, reminds me of what the insects of the night do when you turn on the lights.
Nope, despite local lefty blogs attempt to paint him as one using a Photoshop effort.
Which lefty blogs have been bending over backward to retract when it was found to be fake. They can be criticized for uncritically posting it, but they have not been propogating it after it was disproved. I rarely see the word "Correction" appearing on right-wing blogs.
<span>'You see, the thing is, I didn't kill that little girl'</span>
Yes, but you are the one trying to profit from her death.
The fact is that there is no evidence that links the shooter to any of the right wing boogeymen you want him to be linked to, yet Spot goes on spouting his vague accusations of guilt. I hope you have more professional standards in your day job.
I wouldn't calling disappearing the story off the front page bending over backwards, nor do I think it praise worthy that they finally did the right thing, after being soundly thumped the last time they tried to cover up an inconvenient lie.
The right does not want anyone to be using the "A" word. This is the most fundamental scrub necessary. An ASSASSINATION is nothing but political. Oswald was a "lone nut", yet the impact of murdering the POTUS remains. A Federal Judge was ASSASSINATED. A Congresswoman of the US has been effectively ASSASSINATED. The shooter called their names out as he shot them. Keep using the proper term for this crime, ASSASSINATION. Why would the right wing want that term to disappear? I liked something I read in a comment at the Strib. The mug shot of Loughner makes him the new poster boy for the Tea Party.
Profit from her death? No, Dave the profit came earlier to Fox News, Salem Communication, and the rest of bilious, hot air, right wing radio.
Sometimes, Dave, the thing speaks for itself.
Boys and girls, Dave reminds me a little of the pope in my dialog about the pope, who, after being involved in the cover up of priest abuses cases for a long time prior to becoming the pope, and being asked about it as pope, replies, "I've never seen these fornicators before in my life." Or perhaps in a German Hitler Youth pope's vernacular: Ego nimmer sehen illud Hurer pro in meus vita.
Even the Admiral, in own boyish, thuggish way, recognizes this was a political act:
It’s too bad this happened. But, see what happens when you push and take from people? More of this will happen if the government doesn’t start living within the constitution. About the only thing I can say is too bad it wasn’t Barry O. I’d be celebrating.
Yeah, correcting mistakes isn't praiseworthy at all. Of course not. Why even bother?
<span><span>Right-Wing Media Paranoids Haven't Talked a Nut Into Shooting Anyone for Nearly Six Months</span></span>
Thanks to Avidor for the link to the Rear Admiral.
If Loughner was just a simple nut, why didn't he just shoot up his neighborhood, and save the cab fare? Or, having investing in the cab, why didn't he just shoot a couple of cashiers and a stock boy or two in the Safeway when he went in with the driver?
Because nobody - so far - is describing stock boys as dangerous cockroaches.
<p>Speaking of "inconvenient lie" Dave - when have you ever apologized for trying to smear Congressman Walz?
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</p><p>Because so far, to the best of my knowledge, you haven't.
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</p><p>http://www.mnprogressiveproject.com/diary/6300/dave-thul-todays-example-of-why-reasonable-people-can-no-longer-assume
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let's try that link, again...
http://www.mnprogressiveproject.com/diary/6300/dave-thul-todays-example-of-why-reasonable-people-can-no-longer-assume
William Rivers Pitt's list of just a few items of violent and eliminationist rhetoric by the right wing, in an op-ed at Trouthout:
"I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus - living fossils - so we will never forget what these people stood for."
- Rush Limbaugh, Denver Post, 12-29-95
"Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him."
- Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton
"We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."
- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), Mother Jones, 08-95
"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."
- Ann Coulter, New York Observer, 08-26-02
"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."
- Ann Coulter, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, 02-26-02
"Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an 'enemy of the people.' The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, 'clan liability.' In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished 'to the ninth degree': that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed."
- John Derbyshire, National Review, 02-15-01
"Two things made this country great: White men & Christianity. The degree these two have diminished is in direct proportion to the corruption and fall of the nation. Every problem that has arisen (sic) can be directly traced back to our departure from God's Law and the disenfranchisement of White men."
- State Rep. Don Davis (R-NC), emailed to every member of the North Carolina House and Senate, reported by the Fayetteville Observer, 08-22-01
Conservatives believe that just talking about gays and lesbians, or trying to protect them from bullying, will encourage young people to become homosexual. Yet, they now claim that eliminationist rhetoric like that above, and Sarah Palin's crosshairs have no effect on the culture.
<span>Sarah Palin opposes collective blame for monstrous crimes, unless they're committed by Muslims.</span>
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